To do this we will link your MailOnline account with your Facebook account. Susan Wright is out of prison after killing her husband in TX. Its nine minutes into the video. The fact that shortly after Joanns funeral, Andy reconnected with an old friend, a woman who happened to live about 4 miles from where the bodies were found. Just one example. Most of all, Patricia said, she would like a rematch with prosecutor Michael McIntyre. She and Andrew Katrinak shared a house in Salisbury Township in the mid-1980s, when he was a self-employed contractor and she was a real-estate agent. Andrew told investigators that the unpleasant phone call between Joann and Patricia happened just three days before his wifes disappearance. The influencer has Patricia also pointed out that when author Tammy Mal started her research and speaking to me, she was not an advocate at all but she reversed and ended up advocating for Patricias innocence. They were not reported until 5:30 the next morning and he had already spliced the phone lines together. Keep up your delusions. 2023 Advance Local Media LLC. This woman was obsessed and jealous. If Patricia had injuries it wouldve only been to her hands and she wasnt questioned right away which is also the reason she took Joanne elsewhere to kill her so her body wouldnt be found for a while and she would have time to return home. Yet, you have a story like Darlie Rutier who supposedly stabbed herself seriously enough that was centimeters from her carotid artery, yet this woman is in prison still? She killed Joann, had a fair and impartial trial, so its time to get over it. Are you even aware there are judges, eminent writers, lawyers and TV personalities and countless other ordinary people all of whom steadfastly support her as being innocent and wrongly convicted. Why is this even a question, why people are trying to take out killers into society? At one point Interpol had an extremely similar case in which an individual convinced a friend, who had been his sexual partner several times in the past, to kill the woman he had a baby with, on the grounds that the child is not his and he does not love her but cannot leave because everyone would accuse him of abandoning his child and his family name would be affected. Mrs. Katrinak had been shot in the face and . Andrew Katrinak said he found his basement door ajar and removed from its hinges, and a phone line had been cut. Rorrer waived her extradition rights late Tuesday afternoon. Sadly, those who defend Rorrer do not want to be confused by the truth. Andrew Joseph Katrinak (1926-2015) - Find a Grave Memorial Saphira Wolf forgive me, but I dont have the time, or wish, to respond to idiotic comments. because theres money to be made from the commercials added into their show. Chambers also didn't want to speak about her daughter. If you so dearly feel the need to occupy the high ground in debate or an argument, have the decency to quote accurately. However, that first theory very neatly allows the cops to further theorise that the gun she once owned (which had a history of jamming after the first shot) was the one used at the murder. And Patricia wasnt all edges. Oh, and she was so obsessed with him that she started dating and found herself a boyfriend that was not only younger, but much more attractive than Andy? And your contention that you (me) as ONE person are wrong, let me say that while you seem to be determined in singling me out as someone whos opinion is one against the rest, is hopelessly exaggerated. You ought to acquaint yourself thoroughly with the case and not allow yourself to get any further elevated on your high horse. Quote if I had known I would get caught, I would never have brought you into this world. Pat to Nicole her daughter. True, Andrew would have no way to acquire and plant Patricias blond hair there because it wasnt that color when she knew him. And even prosecutor Michael McIntyre, who wrote the book Hair Trigger about the case, acknowledged to Keith Morrison that it was a little odd that the police found blood on the hairs in Joanns car but nowhere else in the vehicle. I finally had to stop reading this stupid article. After all, justice has been served in the eyes of the law, so why go on demonising her? They also found a photo of Patricia taken 11 days before the homicide. Joanne and Alex didnt disappear until 12/15. I thought the same. Dial-a-problem. Kidnapped and killed? False. Advocates for her innocence complain of hype surrounding the case. Your position Ive read a lot, Im right; you disagree with me, Ill say youre a moron. Joanne didnt go missing until December 15, an entire week and a day later. Username. The entrance to the Lehigh County Courthouse at 455 Hamilton St. in Allentown is seen in November 2011. Andrew lived at address. I would bet MONEY that the first baby born to Patricia didnt die of SIDS. Well ask you to confirm this for your first post to Facebook. The missing hairs probably got destroyed in testing.. thats how they test them.. and reports are wrong all the time. How is it that these women are paroled? LONGTIME SUSPECT CHARGED IN MURDERS\ - Greensboro News and Record Another glaring omission is Early in the investigation, the police in their zeal to add some substance to their fanciful theory about the gun used in the crime, did a thorough search of Rorrers back yard/garden (where they did target practice) looking for spent shells and bullets, in order to do a forensic comparison with the bullet recovered from the victim. But otherwise, extremely similar, a single bullet fired into the head, the woman later beaten to make sure she died, the hair, which had remained in the bracelet of our victim in this case, the way it was executed outside the house in a wooded area, at the command of the gentleman who did not want to soil his house, and the child who in our case was abandoned in the car. So we can just pretend that everyone is honest all of the time? Andrew also stated that when Pat called and Joann answered she had instructed her not to call again because they were married and they were happy. And the fact that Patricia called Andrew even after he married someone else didnt mean she was still carrying a torch for him, according to one of her friends. Perhaps youre not aware, there was a great deal of evidence of which these documentaries made no mention, as well as misdeeds and incidents of corruption perpetrated by the cops. I happen to be one of those deluded people youre so freely attempting to insult. Stable situation. There are innocent people in prison. But let me say in my defence, I have not attacked anyone on this particular site with outright rudeness, to which you allude, albeit some of them deserved a retort of some substance. After reading this forum and hearing the details of this case, Iowa sure seems a lot fairer in my eyes. Pat will spend the rest of her natural life in prison where people like her belong. In summer, after thawing, there will be small animals eating the body and even turkey vultures, but not so much in the winter. ), The Wrong Man investigators Ira Todd and Joe Kennedy have some theories of their own. The longer it took to find the bodies the easier it would be for her alibis to be believed as it wouldve been harder for people to remember if she was at a dance class etc that she regularly attended on that specific date. Thats my life.. Username. I believe this woman murdered Joann and Alex. You started slinging insults, then got insulted when slung back. No show. Family members found Joanns tan Toyota sitting vacant in the parking lot of McCartys, a nearby bar. A-list trainer shares the ultimate do's and don'ts of workout etiquette - revealing why you should NEVER use a metal water bottle, Trump collaborates with January 6 prison choir in release of new single 'Justice for All' - which dropped ahead of his CPAC appearance, King Charles will offer Prince Harry and Meghan a Buckingham Palace apartment when they visit UK after kicking them out of Frogmore Cottage. How do you explain the authorities finding .22mm shell casings at her home during the search warrant. Mal told Keith Morrison that Patricias dance teacher originally confirmed her alibi that she was in class on the day of the murder, then changed his mind. That woman has no soul. neither her nor there couldnt be linked to her. For goodness sake, it was never proved at her trial she used the gun the police so steadfastly offered as evidence or for that matter, ANY OTHER GUN. Or the fact the one of those officers heard her make this statement at the time of her arrest and not the other. ``She was mainly worried about her little girl,' Myers recalled. But hang on You ask that I show care with my wording and show all the tolerance in the world, and by that you presumably mean I should simply ignore those who villify her in the most disgraceful way, probably in the opinion that all readers of their comments will agree, and no one is going to take offence! I didnt read anything in this article that convinced me I didnt like that the lab had a bad rep and I do agree the police lie and frame people sometimes so I cant say 100% she did it or not. And this was never disclosed to Rorrers Defence. Three days later, Joann had plans to pick up her mother-in-law, Veronica Katrinak, to go Christmas shopping. Rorrer's ex-boyfriend, Andrew Katrinak, was the husband of Joann Katrinak and Alex's father. The two kept in touch by telephone, and in 1991, Rorrer briefly sought refuge at Katrinak's home in Catasauqua after being assaulted by another boyfriend. And, why is it reasonable to believe lay people accept the jury verdict? Patricia defaulted on her mortgage and then returned to North Carolina, where she eventually moved in with a boyfriend named Brian Ward. With Andrew unwilling or unable to pay the going rate, likely to be thousands of pounds per week, Charles has decided to kick the Sussexes out of the five-bedroom Frogmore Cottage and offer the keys to his younger brother, who is resisting. ), And in another bombshell, Joanns good friend Karen Devine said Joann planned to leave Andrew after the holidays. Wow. Patricia Rorrer | Worldwide Womens Criminal Justice Network - WCJN The difference between the cases was that the child was not injured and the individual wrote down the details of the plan in a notebook, but otherwise it seems extremely similar to me. What a contrived case! But investigators conceded they had no solid evidence against Andrew. I have all her moms and her jewelry that was given to me when my mom passed away. Today, Patricia Lynne Rorrer resides in State Correctional Institute at Muncy, a medium and maximum security facility that has the highest rate of cancer of all prisons in Pennsylvania, according to a story from northcentralpa.com. ANDREW Tate has complained "they won't let me leave" in another whinge from prison after claiming he is suffering from a "serious health condition". And the point the hair in her hand wasnt tested was because they didnt need it since they had the killer shame on everyone who went along with that. Flaw in reasoning. Discuss and express opinion; stop short of asserting that those of the other view (that of judge and jury, at least) are ignorant of facts and wrong, and youre right, because by definition its reasonable for lay people to accept the jury verdict. If you look at the crime scene picture, only parts of the mother seem preserved. Keep in mind that 34 hairs are in custody of the state police, so where are the other 4 hairs? She was always looking for a fight, Gary Gabard told the Morning Call, which noted that he was a head shorter than Patricia. Especially mice! The Common Sense Guy you should put yourself on top of the list of deluded people. How would an intruder find it? There is pendency of DNA investigation for Routier. Check Background Get Contact Info This Is Me - Edit Reputation & Background Nobody said bodies were intact. Rorrer's attorney, Bill Fritz of Lexington, refused to comment on the case. Claps! After Joann Katrinak, the wife of Patricias former flame, turned up dead along with her infant son, prosecutors suspected Patricia. Strands of the accuseds dyed-blond hair at two crime scenes proved it. Instead, she took the girl to Myers' stables just about every day. Too many people testified as to the type of person she was. The 36-year-old former kickboxer and his brother have been jailed in . A newspaper account described Patricia as a soft-spoken, demure woman who had a sweet Southern accent and wore feminine clothes in court. of course they all do it to make money only, some of them do it shamelessly, without the slightest attempt to be fair and honest. Theyre just not willing to investigate/research as to the truth. He was born in Bethlehem son of the late Martin. The 36-year-old former kickboxer and his brother have been imprisoned in Romania since late December on suspected rape and human trafficking offences. As to her duration on death row, no: inference cannot be made as to her guilt as theres a woman with about the same time (Holberg) and another with almost as much. If you have ever met or been in a relationship with a narcissist, the former partner being with a more young and attractive-looking person would make them go off. Theres also the matter of a woman who suddenly remembered she saw Joann with another man at a Food Mart store five days after the disappearance. I believe in Patricias innocence and she deserves to be freed, at last! Clearly, there are a lot of irrational people out there. After the King told the Duke of York of planned budget cuts to royal funds, the disgraced royal has since refused to leave his 30-bedroom Royal Lodge in Windsor. Shame on your for defending a vicious killer. ``She sat me down and told me I would probably hear about it,' Myers recalled. Angry that Joann hung up on her, she stalked her for three days, then broke into her basement and cut the phone line, put a gun to Joanns head as she was placing Alex in the car, and forced her to drive to the rural area. Name. 'Once you sign up, you do what you're told': Duke of Sussex tells trauma expert Gabor Mat 'a lot of us' in the Army 'didn't necessarily agree or disagree' with the West's invasion of Afghanistan but did 'what you're trained to do', Duke of York is currentlyrefusing to leave his 30-bedroom Royal Windsor Lodge, He proposed torun the Royal Estates, including late mother's beloved Balmoral, he fears he will be unable to afford its upkeep if the King cuts his 250,000-a-year grant. You say by definition! Red-faced and crying, the tall woman wore an orange-and-white prison jumpsuit, flip-flops and ankle chains. Combination locks. Let her rot like she left Joan and that INNOCENT baby Alex. Jealousy was the motive. Court records show she is incarcerated in the Lehigh County Jail. Oh wait, sorry, you werent there. Too bad she got off with just a life sentence. Im sure shes innocent adds nothing other than to tell us your state of mind! The hair evidence is not compelling because theres a very good possibility that the evidence was compromised. How do you know this woman wasnt obsessed with him and wanted his wife out of the way? Lived In Drake CO . Pennsylvania troopers will take her to Bethlehem, Pa., today. The feminist in me is, like, hell yeah!: Will men take the male contraceptive pill? So, if you feel you have to be critical of me, you should also bear in mind those hate-mongers and perhaps have a word with them too. Which, for this very reason, is at present being investigated by a federal judge? By posting your comment you agree to our house rules. The obvious, if moot, response to this is to observe that her conviction wasnt based on inaccurate documentaries but on trial. In North Carolina, she reportedly enjoyed some success as a horse trader, riding instructor, and rodeo competitor. She would also have no heart when it comes to children, not even her own. And for you to even ask why documentaries are biased, makes me wonder if you have the ability to determine fact from fiction! I have not SEEN this report that says no root found is there a picture of it online somewhere? There was a blood-stained fingernail and hair found on the victims body, and even though (in Keith Morrisons Dateline documentary) the Asst. Have you read the book? Pat is locked in a cage because shes an animal. It has very bad energy. I can only suggest you read through my comments again, only more thoroughly. If you can tear yourself away from your obsessive mentality, you can see what virtually amounts to the tampering to which I referred. Shes where she belongs in prison for the rest of her life. If you want to help her tell her to ask God for forgiveness. Theyre more than happy to exaggerate and speculate the details of the crime, which serves to attract more viewers who (like you) seem to be happy to believe it all. And this doesnt apply to your opinion learnt from a well-researched book, from documentaries which show and mention a great deal of facts and evidence which was never brought up at her trial. They dont need to make money??? It was Patricias hair no question. Proven in court and sentence awarded!!! I deduced my opinion to be fact because of what Ive read and seen and is supported by evidence which was never disclosed at her trial. The additions come as KFC recently removed some menu items, including wings, popcorn chicken and cookies, to make room for new additions. It was winter which are cold in PA and would slow down decomposition and minimize insect activity although you are correct about the rodentswhy were there none? Rorrer, formerly of the Phillipsburg and High Bridge areas, was living in Linwood, North Carolina,. (Disclaimer: Im not a big fan of eyewitnesses who come forward years after the fact, but its possible). Stayed tuned - Alex Murdaugh's sordid tale is just getting started, Alex Murdaugh's head is shaved as he is booked into South Carolina prison fortress for weeks of evaluation before being sent to a maximum security facility housing the 'worst of the worst', At least 10 dead as wild storms lash the U.S: Tornadoes and golf ball-sized hail topples trucks and leaves one million without power in Kentucky, Alabama and Arkansas - after dumping 17 feet of snow in California, Massive gas tanker crashes in Maryland and EXPLODES into fireball killing the driver and setting local residents' homes ablaze as large plumes of black smoke and embers billow from crash site, 'I want to be a French child!' As for Joanns parents, her father died a year after the murder. He helped her take horses to day care centers, where she would take photographs of children with the horses. ``Some people just don't know how to let go,' Hege said. If the answer is no, enough said! It is not necessary to the case against her that she owned the killing gun (and it would be foolish to have used it). Let me ask youWhy do most of those who post adverse and hateful comments feel the need to? 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She should have received the death penalty imo. Why? You are not expressing an opinion but making an assertion or claim of fact: [I] have absolutely no doubt she was railroaded and wrongfully convicted. You are claiming innocence as fact there is no doubt shes innocent. It says that Andrew reported the cut phone lines and broken pad lock was reported to the police at 10:30. It fails to mention the car was totally clean of any other forensic residue. Andrew Katrinak said he found his basement door ajar and removed from its hinges, and a phone line had been cut. State police and the Philadelphia division of the FBI appealed to the public for leads. Not gender neutral. Get up-to-the-minute news sent straight to your device. Joanns gun and beating wounds were obvious, but the baby died a less violent (but just as horrible) death with no clear signs. The phone wire was located at the opposite end of the basement, which was dark. It all gave jurors a lot to think about but only for six hours. After a very early failed marriage, the 24-year-old Joann scored a new husband in Andrew Katrinak, 38, whom she met at a club. After relocating to Pennsylvania, Patricia met the 6-foot-2-inch Andrew in a restaurant. Look into it. An intensive search was launched, and family members distributed hundreds of missing-person flyers around Pennsylvania. Andy passed not one but two polygraph tests and had a solid alibi. And the obvious answer is not as you claim. I guess the investigators in Pennsylvania managed a quick resolve to a huge case that had a nations eyes scrutinizing their every move! If documentaries are, as you claim, biased against Rorrer, the obvious question is why. SHE IS NOT GUILTY OF THESE CRIMES. Police couldnt determine whether the baby died of exposure or suffocation. And yikes, he discovered someone had cut one of the houses phone lines and pried the hinge on the basement door. Find lehighvalleylive.com on Facebook. There was a blood-stained fingernail and hair found on the victims body, and even though (in Keith Morrisons Dateline documentary) the Asst. What will the next pandemic be? ``As good as she is with people and animals, I just can't believe it.'. The FBI even included a written report to that effect. Sad discovery. This response of yours neatly sums up your dogmatic view of her guilt despite so much evidence to the contrary. And I have absolutely no sympathy. "Andrew was diagnosed with a serious medical condition in December 2022 whilst he was in Dubai," his representative told The Sun Online. Catherine Im in complete agreement with you! Plus, he had only a minimal life insurance policy on Joann and he passed polygraphs, according to The FBI Files: Family Secrets. If you subscribe to Hulu and upgrade to Starz (theres a free one-week trial offer), you can stream the Wrong Man episodes about Patricia Rorrer. I dont think she was ever scared until we put the cuffs on her.. ANDREW KATRINAK OBITUARY KATRINAK Andrew G. Katrinak of Little Rock, Ark., beloved husband of the late Josephine Gawlowicz Katrinak, died peacefully at his home on Sunday, October 31,. Highly charged case. She had money put aside. She will be taken to Pennsylvania today to face trial. Andrew Tate 'seriously ill' as leaked medical record hints at lung She will be in jail for the rest of her life and rightly so. Patricia Rorrer: Guilty Or Not?. The FBI declared the strongest piece Joann was fun, likable, beautiful, always happy, said her sister-in-law Cindy Wiard. They did this case on Reasonable Doubt last night. No other suspect has existed that would have a motive to kill Joann. Thank you Kerry. Detective Barry Grube found it odd that Andrew fixed the severed phone line before police examined it in essence tampering with evidence. They retested the hair for DNA evidence with updated technology definitely Patricias hair case closed. Another witness, Walter Traupman, who never testified, had told state troopers that on the day of Joanns disappearance, he saw a couple who looked like Joann and Andrew arguing about the paternity of a baby. Andrew Katrinak - Address & Phone Number | Whitepages The fact that there is LITERALLY NO EVIDENCE that Patricia was actually obsessed with Andy; they spoke as friends maybe twice a year. Go watch the Reasonable Doubt episode from last night Patricia did it. Unbloody vehicle. If her husband was going to do that Im sure he wouldve done it in a totally different way! Im quite happy to accept that ANYONE who makes a TV documentary makes it for money. and there are probably many people who still think he is innocent too. Published: 20:58 EST, 3 March 2023 | Updated: 21:02 EST, 3 March 2023. Meanwhile, the case of the missing mother and baby turned into colossal news across the U.S. and internationally. Have you read the book? ALISON BOSHOFF: As Broadchurch star Andrew Buchan and Leila Farzad become a real-life item while sexual electricity crackles between them in new BBC drama, did an earlier role of his give a . After a very early failed marriage, the 24-year-old Joann scored a new husband in Andrew Katrinak, 38, whom she met at a club. Puny policy. Byrd Jr. of the Davidson County Sheriff's Department. Hashtags such as #FreeTopG and references to Matrix opposition have flooded social media since the influencers arrest in December. Shes just extremely happy with Andy, her brother, Michael OConnor, told the media. Andrew Katrinak Obituary (2015) - Bethlehem, PA - Morning Call - Legacy.com Patricia had a violent past and was absolutely positively the killer. Andrew Katrinak reported missing his wife, Joanne and 3.5-month-old son, Alex, in December 1994. She took out the woman who replaced her. Weak wages. The criminal, a crazy with a psychotic crush on a man, the planner a individual with a lot of self esteem and narcissistic charm who can persuade women, was rich thought compared to the individual in this case, and the victim, a woman who saw her life only as a wife and mother and had no other pretensions, and that even if she had threatened the individual that she would leave a few times, she always stayed. Did Patricia ever take a lie detector test? How do you explain her not telling the truth to the authorities about the gun and its flaw of only able to shoot once and then jamming up. They blocked each exit to make sure police couldn't extradite Rorrer before they saw her. Katrinak said he is waiting to hear from his 26-year-old wife,. Any true crime fan should know the crazy history of these magic boxes. The article also notes that most inmates earn around 19 cent an hour at their jobs and must pay $5 each time they need medical attention or medicine. Just one example. Together they had a baby girl, Nicole. Your somewhat convoluted explanation of discuss and express opinion, seems to ramble on and on without any logic or reason. All Rights Reserved. ``I didn't know her back then, but I don't think she could begin to do what she's been accused of doing,' Myers said. For the past two years, Patricia Lynne Rorrer was a watched woman. Previous to Teresa's current city of Loveland, CO, Teresa Katrinak lived in Estes Park CO. He would be alive today if it were not for Patricia Rorrer. The mild-mannered Sarah died in 2019 at the age of 83. New state, new man. Patricia Rorrer: An Update - Forensic Files Now Dont know from where youve got your information about this case my guess is youve been watching a lot of those documentaries which revel in showing the case in a disgracefully biased manner. That did amuse me I have to say, but youre way off target there Im more than happy with my state of mind before and after reading any of these comments. Anyway, there are thousands of people who differ from that belief, that is why there is so much controversy surrounding this case, and that is why there have been numerous convicted people in the past whove been exonerated on appeal. Some two years into the investigation of Rorrer, a court order was obtained to remove hair specimens from her. Patricias defenders also say Andrew Katrinak staged the scene at his house by prying the door and cutting the phone line. U.S.M.C. . And your contention that you (me) as ONE person are wrong, let me say that while you seem to be determined in singling me out as someone whos opinion is one against the rest, is hopelessly exaggerated. He had worked as a semi-pro boxer in Las Vegas in his youth and later settled into his own construction business. Her jealousy and rage because Joann told her to not contact her husband set her off. What has that to do with the point youre trying to make? On closer inspection, he saw it was the body of a woman. When Joann Katrinak and the baby didn't show up for a planned afternoon of Christmas shopping on Dec. 15, Katrinak called the police. Martin Domin Editor, Mirror Fighting. Andrew described his existence with Joanne and Alex as a little Camelot., Ex-spouse off list. After a very early failed marriage, the 24-year-old Joann scored a new husband in Andrew Katrinak, 38, whom she met at a club. 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