I wanted to be pumped but I found it hard to ignore the fact that John had blatantly lied when the professional-looking man had asked if there were any additional costs other than the $99. Most of the money on the financial products you sell will go to YOU, rather than some pyramid. I show up on time but, honestly, a little worse for wear. Do whats right. He texted me his contact info after my ride and I noticed it said Primerica Inc. on it so I googled it to find out just exactly I was getting myself into. Thank you for providing this information! I finally ended it telling her Im sorry but no and she said thank you and turned her back on me. No way to dance around that. I focused on a plaque over Johns head as he bragged about his familys last vacation, noting his highest attained income splayed across it in huge numbers. So excited that I had an interview yesterday!! You cannot fail if you do the work. Toward the end of my time there, hed told me he wanted me to set up Primerica as the retirement investment for employees. This sounded so eerily familiar to Primericas tactics and MO. Whatever I did, however I asked, he would not tell me what positions he was trying to fill and that was a big red flag for me. Do I just block them and never contact them again? Primerica offers web-based learning materials and a practice exam. When you write a resume, youre looking for a job, not an opportunity. How fun. The whole thing seemed a little off to me. They give the job seekers very little information about the job (its not a job at all rather it is a position in the MLM pyramid), con them into showing up for an interview, and telling them if they have the right skills, they may be invited to stay for an information session. For any agent to be paid any comm. She asked a few questions about my past work experience as well. not something good to be involved in. Im not going to bother saying anything else since you all are just looking for a reason to not go. A former classmate of mine saw my Facebook post that I was looking for part-time work and called me. I do work very very hard. It wasnt until i read all the posts on this blog that i truly realized i was being bent over that corner desk of his because so much of it made sense. God am I hungover. So there really wasnt an option for riders. So, I got up & left to find out who that company was. I was actively looking for a job two years ago for Customer Service position. The most obvious illustration of this was the outline he drew for me of their organization, a literal pyramid your work will be trying to enlist enough people that you can stop harassing your friends and family, and start luring in random people at department stores to hock insurance for you. And he was on his phone during the interview and it just all seemed so fake and phony. One last question: Might you also direct me to the financial services provider anxious to hire a gray-headed, chicken-necked, bifocaled old cronewhose work ethic and ethics generally are strong?! I am saddened to see this website because the information given is totally inaccurate and people will listen to this guy instead of researching on the GOVERNMENT websites to see that Primerica is an amazing company! Yes, but for other areas, not recruiting. I think youd do well and Id like to have your number and have my secretary call you to set up an interview. Canada recently upgraded their insurance industry testing and training standards nation wide. Then he went on to say how my experience and entrepreneurial nature would be a great fit to run one of the offices. I kept my head down and fiddled with my phone, then shuffled some papers in a folder, desperately trying to look busy and important. She gave me her spill . yet he hasnt received a check from them in month. Now of course I realize that I was probably the only one who wanted to learn. If the new guy lists a property himself, your husband wont be getting part of that commission. (within the next 5 years) 99 for the background check, 25 for the POL, and 50 for the deposit on life insurance. It became apparent to me that it was bogus the moment I walked into a completely empty office that looked more like they were about to move out. They allow an objective summary of the facts. I just had a very recent run-in with a Primerica recruiter. I did. I got the appointment with out know the many of the company, when I got there the girl asked to fill out a form with what I wanted as my career how much money I wanted to make ect, So i can give him people that i know and love names so he can call up and make appts with them to show how to sale them life insurance and close the deal. 90% of Primerica income made by 304K student training recruits that will never be licensed. We were all in this rinkadink room, looks like they rented and tried to make it look professional but it looks rushed and had meaningless awards on the walls. I noticed other people my age, mid-20s, walking into the office fronts around my destination. Thank you! Thirdly, in a real job I wouldnt be so terrified that the person would think its a scam and I wouldnt care if they came on board or not. I wasted a month of my busy life and thankfully, I already maintain a good internship at a wealth management firm and did not leave it for such stupidity. 2018 Sequence Inc. All rights reserved. Glad I didnt waste my time. She wanted to help this person out of her terrible job by interviewing her for a position at her business. At first I was very happy considering I was Highly Qualified for something, but now seeing all these comments just makes me sad. Period. I was contacted by someone from Freedom Financial Services out of Charlotte, NC. I told her I dont have friends, so Im just telling her anything so shell drop it but she was so persistent it was ridiculous. I started to say but I thought and my face must have conveyed my thoughts because he impatiently rolled his eyes and cut me off, lowering the mouthpiece slightly, look, were not supposed to, but Im here to run MY business and I know what gets results.. That really put me off. Ugh. I thought Im supposed to be learning here? Primerica Financial Services Home Mortgages. Once reading all these reviews I called back my recruiter and asked for more details about the interview and he was vague. Georgia Insurance and Safety Fire Commissioner, 2 Martin Luther King Drive, S.W., 716 West Tower, BBB Tip: How to shop for financial services, Need to file a complaint? Aww. She was upset and wanted to know who told me those rumors. When I sat down with the guy, it felt less like an interview and more like a sales pitch like you guys said. Wow was not expecting it to be such a rabbit whole. (The clients DONT save money on services as compared to other companies.). They talk about these bad reviews during training, saying they are written by people who tried the opportunity and failed. PERFECT CANDIDATES! Jeb- If you read most of these comments then you should already know that half of them was approached at their job like myself. Attitude goes a long way idiots from primerica, be forthcoming and maybe one day youll be able to be human again. THANK GODNESS I LISTENED TO MY INTUITION!!!!!! Well talk about me and what I do later. Um, alright. lets protest guys!!!! My niece received a call for a job interview yesterday. Discouraged, I climbed into my own car and went home. This office in Tigard,OR reeked of people looking for people with low self esteem. The one thing that did get me, however, is on Google Maps, the place did not have a name. Ive read just about every comment and I am not going after all. Long story short, I sensed and saw scammers written all over their faces. Thank you guys for posting these. She also asked me if it was true that I had management experience, which I thought was a strange question because if she had actually reviewed my resume, she would find that I indeed have about 7 years of management experience in both sales and customer service. In this instance, it turns out that I did apply for a job with Primerica back in December (they had a job listing on my grad school career website). I also know another person who has been doing it for 10+ years now and he doesnt make much at all. MLM or a Pyramid scheme.Primerica is a Pure Business opportunity, the . Blah blah blah. I thought oh boy! Told me hes still interested, to come in today and I said I was too busy and had no time. Why dont I just go for this so-called interview, gather the information they want to give me and make my own decision as to if its something I want to do or not (like Charlotte did). Reported to Primerica Legal. Very interested in knowing how you feel about State Farm and other companies that are taking clientssavings and withhold information to their clients so they do buisnes Is that not fraud? 1. transfer job locations to my home time and end up getting paid a little more + be with all my family + be happier. During that same time period, 243,167 of their licensed reps also left the opportunity. Why keep this guy waiting, wasnt that terribly unprofessional and disrespectful? I was thinking it was odd that I still didnt know the name of the company. He made it seem like that was the main focus of the company. A lot of people here who are unapologetic in their refusal to show up to a meeting they said they would go to after doing research, coming down on agents about ethics. I heard at a convention a couple of years ago that the way you know its a good company with good products or services, would be if you had to pay retail, would you still buy it? In any event, I told him I was not interested and he hung up. Okay, made perfect sense. OMG This is soooo true. They make any failures out to be lazy and incompetent, unfortunately the failure rate is incredibly high. I got referred to Primerica by a fellow friend of mine. Ive seen success, a lot of it, and thats because we had a passion for what we do. What deity do these two preachers represent? She mentioned her husband company briefly and for someone else to pass on the info. I entered the room the woman on the phone had told me to go, there were about 20 other people in there with a presenter holding an iPad on his hand. What might those be? If the job interview is not actually for a job, and is instead for a recruitment scheme, then the person was lied to. The location seemed extremely sketchy too. First, I purchased a single mutual fund through Primerica about 20 years ago. He had a misdemeanor when he was younger and it affected him getting the position- so he said. End of story. I should have known it was a scam, who calls people on a sunday!? International Association of Better Business Bureaus. The MLM company has all the power and they just sit there and watch the money roll in while their distributors lose. Second, it was I who contacted my Primerica agent recently, not the other way around, to inquire on an IRA rollover for my husband. I wasnt about to put my plans aside for something as ambiguous as that, and seeing other people talk about their experiences, Im glad I didnt. Plus, I knew I had read somewhere on POL (online website for reps) that it was against compliance to block the number. I just got off the phone with some one by the name of Kelly Marie from prime America she was very anxious to have me come in for an interview. People who invested millions of dollars and doubled their money in 2 years are scam. I received invite to interview The next day I came in for the interview and something seemed a little off. My interviewer did not have a copy of my resume. I asked him if he was headhunting and he said, No, Im actually early for a business meeting and your personality caught my attention. He went on to make about six more calls, each leaving me a little more tense than the last. those guys are motherfu***** i went to the interview and i interviewed with a guy but he was so suspicious though, when he asked me for a 99$ but it should be on a bank account not cash( so they can steal my infos) but when i told him i dont have any money on me now he seemed Confounded and annoyed and there was three girls sitting on the other table they kinda laughed when i said i dont have the money, and so he immediately ended the convo and said i can come back tomorrow and give him the money and i said okay great cuz i actually believed him he was so convenience but and thank god i didnt have money on me cuz if i had i would give all my infos but thank god i didnt give him anything and so he ended the convo right away cuz in my opinion he knew that i would go back home and look up the company name and i will find this post and so i will never come back and give him anything and thats exactly what happened and thank god ive read this post this author is genius thank you so much screw those guys. Thank you for this information. I ended up seeking out one of the young men and telling him I was there for an interview with Mr. Blah Blah. I had to fill out some kind of assessment that would tell them which management training program would be best suited for me. We chat like we did before she mentions that her daughter Mariah (not her name, but I want to stress the weird detail that the name WAS a variant of her own). It would be too painful to add up all the hours, dollars, and gas I had so far invested into this business. When it was over I again thought, ok so now Ill get the interview. Did he expect me to conduct this interview? Am a cashier nothing spectacular, but I still enjoy it. Thank you, I texted her your web blog and stated I WILL NOT BE SHOWING UP. But I really like you. What professional business calls on a weekend? It is a recruitment scheme. I respect that! Also, there is nothing on my LinkedIn profile that indicates I have any financial talent. She gives me a look that says, You could very well be the son I never had! It seems like a con now. I dont see any suggestion there that newbies may expect six-figure earnings? I am so ashame to be same species as John adison and glen williams . If the whole deal is to make money, you make more money recruiting not selling the product. All I have to do is clock in whatever hours a week I want and watch thousands of dollars pour in. While many financial professional aren't interested in working with the middle class,* Primerica is committed to helping Main Street families save and invest for their short-term and long-term goals. I was just contacted by one of these clowns and told based on my god given gifts I would be perfect for this opportunity. Just got off the phone with a recruiter from Primarica, and he made it sound like he sought me out for this position. He went on to explain that the company offers free financial health reports to perspective customers and that all they ask in return from the prospects is they offer up a list of 15 local contacts so they can hopefully recover the expense of this complimentary offer. not entrepreneurial OK if that is the case then why are you driving a 1995 Toyota Civic AND why does your wife work FT AND he also had a PT job at GEICO!!!! As soon as I seen it was a power point presentation I knew money would be involved. I didnt think much of it until I went inside. He then scheduled me the day after, which after these comments I intend at missing again. Legit MLMs and pyramid scams have a few key differences. I received a call on Wednesday from a classmate she just graduater from high school and im still there so she told me that she works for a growing company but she didnt say which company it was she just asked how old i am and if i was looking for a job as almost every high school student i am looking for a job and i have applied in so many places but they havent call me. . Surely it wouldnt matter in the end, as long as we get the recruit right? What a waste of time?! I sat and as soon as the presentation started I was NOT happy because it was clearly a come sell this stuff and get rich thing. They say that you can get a refund if you are no longer interested. They focus heavily on helping the middle class with financial products. Her last attempt was to try and sell the financial services to me. When called at home, I got a vague assurance that I would be a good fit. LOL Alex. Tameka All insurance agencies are NOT pyramids. 85% of people cannot pass insurance test. He asked for a check saying theyll cash it when I give the green light to go ahead. Had he invested his 30 years with any number of other companies, he could be retiring with tons to show for it. The whole thing seemed extremely odd to me that they would be interested in employing someone like myself who has zero experience in this field. He also said that he can talk to me me and my wife at the same time to explain the money for the financial license. The examples in the booklet are for Bob and Susan Smith, ages 33 and 35. I said I dont have the money (but the back of my mind I know that it is already a scam). But the way I see it, is that why should I care about what other people are saying about this company. Then she texted me and asked to meet her this week for coffee. I attended a presentation and just decided it wasnt something I really wanted to do. Obviously the other side of this coin is that reps/and recruits dont benefit, and dont find enough value to stay. A pyramid scheme does not refer to the layers of management that you see. No one hands you a silver platter without some work. I was referred by a friend who recently started working there. Person could not confirm how they got a copy of my resume, but asked that I bring my updated copy with me. It seemed to good to be true. Generally in my experience, anything that seems too good to be true usually is. Based on previous replies on this blog, scripted interviews seemed frequent. Im generally really polite and dont want to hurt feelings, and I knew that my current work may expire in December, so I figured Id hear him out and then should I need work in December, maybe Ill give him/them a call. I call in two weeks ago to get some assistance in lowering my policy, and I get the run around. A review of their Company of Destiny report big earners chart, once applying the fine print written below it, reveals that only 1% at best, of all the reps in their entire history since 1977, ever broke the $50k level, once or more, during any best 12 month rolling window. Its based on any rep earning $100k DURING ANY BEST 12 MONTH ROLLING WINDOW during their entire careers. Dont spread lies when you failed at the business. And he said the clients love him and are so thankful that he gets invited to birthday partys and what not like ummmm ok I dont care. (Formerly pre-paid Legas Services, membership I have had for 16 years. Thank you for the heads up!!! I know my story sounds the same as many others go figure, right, these guys seem to work from the same playbook but I figured Id add mine. Should I in fact back out? Glad I already have a good job! I did go to an interview with him his office was eerily empty, a dark, one-floor building that looked more like a conference center than an office space. I arrived at what was clearly a low-cost rental space, with walls covered in transparent attempts at making their company seem legitimate meaningless trophies, pictures of random people posing in groups, etc. Thank you so much everyone for sharing your experiences. Ive had group sort of discussions before, but this seemed to be more of them trying to sell me on a position (it almost felt like they were trying to sell me the products themselves) They didnt ask me many questions about myself, so it felt like they were looking for whoever will take their job, not who wants it. PFS Investments insights Based on 23 survey responses What people like Supportive environment Clear sense of purpose Time and location flexibility Primerica Financial services Pays really well. She says its just a coat she found around the house she dont work there. I advised that I am looking for roles in the IT field, preferably as a deskside technician. File a complaint about an investment or an investment account with the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC). There was a Prime America in the office building I currently work in, and I cant tell you how many young, eager, looking people would pull up looking nervous right before their big job interview. Im a server and i waited on this guy and his family. I was in the middle of Target, shopping in the electronics aisle. I just went to a meeting last night, everything previously written by past people are true. You get paid if you sell, and thats all they care about. Primerica is the greatest opportunity to have your own business ever created. she never asked for a resume or any back round on me never told me the name of the company until I asked her today . He didnt think to clarify my concern so I cancelled the interview there and then. No, regular companies that are set up with levels of management (such as Walmart) are NOT pyramid schemes. Several times she mentions she is a Christian, in that mostly innocent way Christians sometimes do to feel out a stranger, trying to see if theyre on the team. Sep 27, 2021 7 min Read . lol He went on to tell me that they were moving their business from Milwaukee to Chicago and are looking for people to help run a couple businesses here, here I thought oh boy, a sales position, no thank you I thought in my mind. Worst case scenario, I figure, its a connection or something. Unusual, yes, a scam, no. I figure its a slip of the tongue and she means AtlantA, but throughout the conversation she keeps excitedly bringing up Atlantis. 4.praying primerica is what it is for good, help me with these to open up my next store FOR GOODfor all you i dont believe a business can be good and their only out for my money. Thats illegal. I have an acquaintance from Facebook who floods my news feed daily with this Primerica crap. I joined Primerica and spent about 2 years trying it. It takes hard, Hi, I do not agree with you. They are a publicly traded company on the NYSE. Currently my interview still stands, I was apprehensive since Ive worked exclusively in retail but excited to explore a new field of work. I stopped giving out leads once I realized that I wasnt getting paid at all. Posted on . needless to say I got undressed put on my gym clothes and went to the gym . In light of this information, I will be canceling. Just dont give up! It smell like a pyramid scheme and look like ones. He asked if I had heard of Primerica. Primerica asks their reps for quite a bit. Im a 22 year old student working as a sales associate in an Office store when I was ringing up a customer (Kristen Dunn). A pyramid scheme is a fraudulent and unsustainable investment pitch that relies on promising unrealistic returns from imaginary investments. It was withheld from peoples pay. It was sure better than his you guys arent doing anything, youre being a bunch of losers talks he usually gave at training meetings. http://www.sequenceinc.com/fraudfiles/2015/03/multi-level-marketing-is-not-a-business-its-a-pyramid-scheme/. You can get a reasonable life insurance plan as a AAA member and should deal with a real bank or well known investment firm with your money, people! They offered you the opportunity to make extra money about $200/hour extraas I said, the only reason someone didnt make money in Primerica is because they didnt work. You will lose the business and the friendship. I was told that there are many positions to be filled and I am qualified for a top one. 1.) All the things he was saying sound good. ?, Dont you want enough money to rent a space for your classes? Like the $1000-$2000 a month for 10-15 hours a week? A pyramid scheme begins with one person or a small team recruiting participants to join a new business venture. Luckily, I was sitting next to her so the moment she said it was from Primaerica I told her it was a scam. Most of the posters defending also seem very unprofessional and lack a certain level of education. Glad I dug in deeper. A lot of people on here say Good thing I found this website. P.S.Also, as to objections from some of the above posters concerning licensure fees charged by Primerica, any financial services company must ensure that its agents are licensed, just like real estate agents (or engineers or accountants) must be licensed. Most all businesses fail, traditional or mlm. When i asked for a website he diverted the conversation to something else. At least this way, I can practice negotiating for a higher pay level, and interviewing in general. I was unable to find much of anything online until I got the address for the interview. Hello Tracey, Additionally, the MLM structure sucks for the Primerica representatives. This is a multi-location business. No, I am not very angry with the company. I do, however, believe it is very important to inform people about the truth behind multi-level marketing. He was very vague. * Oh, one other thing, if someone goes in for an interview, and they leave not wanting the job, how are they a victim, exactly? I personally am more of a tech guy, dealing with machines and stuff. They contact the job seekers with an offer of an interview for an opening. I still plan on going to the interview, knowing full well that it is a scam. Just WRONG Disgusted!!! Seems like she wants to help people. If you want to sell insurance or investments, you are much better off with a company OTHER than Primerica. At the time though, it didnt sit right with me. they said a position in the company. She asked if the woman and I interviewing would be interested in receiving our free financial health check as well as a follow-up appointment for the orientation session so I can get out there and start making money. As someone who has worked for sales organizations for many years, I am really annoyed by the recruiting tactics of some of these folks who run MLM outfits. His wife starts asking questions, social security number? Im an accounting student and will be taking finance courses in the near future so I didnt mind working with a finance company. The sheet of paper wanted my address and a list of 5 local contacts, preferably not family. The subject turns to travel. No, Mercedes is not the same thing as multi-level marketing. (TWO not even 50 years old yet!) Im not sure why the internet continues to say PRI is MLM. The first presenter is very good. He called me the next day and I missed his call. She essentially made an appointment for me anyway for Wed at a place in Mission Hills Ca. The complaint . MLMs are legitimate but a prospectus or other similar vehicle should be required for prospective recruits just like a stock or mutual fund offering, identifying exactly what fees are involved and what is specifically required of the representative. All pyramid schemes eventually collapse, and most investors lose their money. When they first came I noticed his wife was wearing a dte coat, I asked jokingly what company is this opportunity with, Primerica or Dte? During the call I asked her about three times for a website link or something to see if I would like working with her but she avoided giving me the website, I had to ask her about three times till she finally gave me something, and even that was just the name of the company. Within a couple of hours. Just got a call from a Primerica recruiter, who set up a alleged interview for tomorrow. Similar situation to how I found about this market a couple days after Christmas. I said i would decide on my method of payment. We need educate general public ! She identified herself as PFS, never mentioning Primerica. Plus who knew if they actually still earned that? I met with her, and liked what I saw. . When this approach is adopted, the need for the original insured amount would not be necessary. Why? I have an interview on Monday but I will not be going afternoon randomly reading all of these comments. So what you are saying is that the other insurance companies must REALLY over elevate their prices. She calls the next day and sets up a day and time to meet at an address. Almost everyone involved in MLM is guaranteed to lose money. Their 6 digit earners boast is misleading as its a cumulative, not annual figure. So glad I did! Yes, the company offers legitimate products. He had been eyeballing me since I walked into the store. They are in fact the Primerica guys, lecturing the invited people to pay them $90 to own a business license and the usual multi-level marketing stuff. I WONT BE GOING!!!!! Does anyone know of other companies besides Primerica that are employing these same tactics? Now I was really confused. This is just like Aimway, they make you sign up and promise you, you will make money fast and easy. Nearly everyone loses money in MLM. There are 125,000+ representatives so its safe to assume there are some bad apples. here is to you. I remember hearing negative things about Primerica, but that was in the late 90s. If you choose to do business with this business, please let the business know that you contacted BBB for a BBB Business Profile. Throughout the presentation I grew more and more skeptical. Proceeded with a few more questions before telling me she and her husband ran a small business. 6. last and least. None of them could answer my question(s) without talking themselves in a circle. I emailed Mark back asking if 10 am worked for him. Her mistake was telling me this could be part time.
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