The club was ordered to pay a $500,000 fine in what prosecutors hoped would be a down payment on putting it out of business.https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/05/us/mongols-new-trial.html00:00 Overview of the New York Times Article01:40 I know I said I wouldn't cover this anymore \"BUT\"03:56 Mongols MC Say LIL DAVE was an informant05:44 What the Mongols Rico Case was about07:30 Where's the paperwork09:26 The explosive video11:50 How long was lil dave a member of the mongols13:47 Why wasn't it done all the time15:47 WOW he can't do this17:14 Usually he had other members with him19:10 The new policies21:44 The leaked strategy#Harley#HarleyDavidson#Biker#Protocol#MotorcycleClub#MC#Tradition#MotorcycleRally#Motorcycles#bikers#outlawmotorcycleclubs#bikerlife Prosecutors convinced a jury in California that these crimes were not just the result of individual bikers behaving badly, but the work of an organized criminal enterprise that had participated in a campaign of mayhem. Marshal that Mr. Santillan and Mr. Ciccone had been seen chatting at a Starbucks near the courthouse. ", "So, he gave me a heads up and that was it. He was the guy outside all the time providing cover support in case something went wrong with the undercovers.. Mongols Motorcycle Club says LIL Dave was an informant as they head back to court June 5, 2022 A new episode of Motorcycle Madhouse with Hollywood & Chinadoll Mon-Fri. Get with the Insanity on all major Podcast Platforms The club was ordered to pay a $500,000 fine in what prosecutors hoped would be a down payment on putting it out of business. Thats what I meant by protect in the video.. The saying 99% and 1% is very true at this moment in time- Most bikers who are the 99% and majority can care less about motorcycle clubs anymore- Its fading and fading fast. Jesse gave other Mongols more of the same. Mr. Dulaney said that Mr. Santillan instituted new policies, like no more club-driven drug business, and made it mandatory that members had to have a motorcycle and things like a valid drivers license and registration and a job.. It became clear that Dave had betrayed the club, his oath and everything we hold sacred, the club said in a statement. The Mongols are relying on an explosive video shared by Mr. Santillans wife, Annie Santillan, who, during a stretch when she was angry with her husband over his infidelity, had her daughter record a conversation in which he appeared to refer to protection he had received from the A.T.F. I think it would be time to really clean house over there, anyone that lil Dave came in contact with on a regular basis would have to go? The ultimate implications for society are paramount here, he said. In 2018, the government scored a victory of sorts. Black Dragon's Sunday Night Round Table discusses Insane Throttle's live interview with former Mongol's MC Nation's International President Lil' Dave. (You must log in or sign up to reply here. Self-Improvement. Everyone has their opinion of went down and how everything was covered. If youre a rat, youre the scum of the earth, he said in an interview. agent on the case, John Ciccone, sharing inside information about the club in exchange for lighter penalties for various offenses. Hopefully it will go back internally and people can worry about the profiling and patch case. Mr. Ciccone, who retired last year, testified that Mr. Santillan never served as an informant for the agency, nor did he pass on any defense information during the trial. agent over the years because it helped avert trouble. "I've never cooperated in any way, shape or form.". The explosive allegations come after a secretly recorded video surfaced of Santillan talking to his wife about the lead ATF agent on the case -- John Ciccone. Michael Tyrone Delaney for The New York Times. As a subscriber, you have 10 gift articles to give each month. The Mongols Motorcycle Club was convicted in late 2018 of racketeering and conspiracy. A federal appeals court is separately considering an appeal of the conviction. Annie tells Eyewitness News that her husband was "spinning out of control" and continued to cheat on her after the phone call. Mr. Santillan provided records from the cases to show he had been convicted of offenses including driving under the influence, leaving the scene of an accident and disturbing the peace, and that he had been arrested, fined and put on probation. Clubs used to represent more than territory, it was about freedom and doing what you wanted. Both Mr. Ciccone and the U.S. Attorneys Office declined to comment on the motion beyond the government response filed in court, which said the petition for a new trial was replete with false and unsupported allegations and speculation.. The U.S. Attorney's office asked him whether he is - or ever was - any sort of informant for the ATF or for any state or federal agency. Great conversation with the president of the Mongols. In the case that led to the racketeering conviction against the Mongols, Mr. Ciccone had acted as the case agent. Annie Santillan says she surreptitiously recorded the call because David's mistress had been harassing her. The indictment did not target any individuals but alleged that the club itself had engaged in an organized conspiracy of crimes such as murder, attempted murder and drug dealing. The current national leaders of the Mongols said they were convinced that the clubs former president, who controlled the Mongols defense team, had acted improperly. Now the Mongols want a new trial and say their former president, David Santillan, was a confidential informant for the ATF.The explosive allegations come after a secretly recorded video surfaced of Santillan talking to his wife about the lead ATF agent on the case John Ciccone.Eyewitness News has obtained the video that was recorded in June of 2021 when David Santillan was drunk and despondent. Jonathan Turley, a constitutional law expert at George Washington University, said that if a federal agent was seeking confidential information about a criminal defense, that would be an extraordinary transgression.. The club supported all kinds of law enforcement functions, (This is a known fact) and the club didnt throw on a diamond until around 2017. Testimony will reconvene on Friday, July 22, at 7:30 a.m. LA County sheriff's recruits graduate months after Whittier crash, Highways into the San Bernardino Mountains are closed to drivers, LA County passes motion requiring retrofit of some buildings by 2033. I take the hit on this one because I shouldve waited for his side- But I always take a the word of a club member and this time it was a mistake. agent who infiltrated three biker clubs. The indictment did not target any individuals but alleged that the club itself had engaged in an organized conspiracy of crimes such as murder, attempted murder and drug dealing. (Photo by The Associated Press). As for Mr. Ciccone, he had mastered the craft of executing complex investigations using everything from undercovers to informants to wiretaps to subpoenas and surveillance, said Frank DAlesio, a retired A.T.F. The government, in its own appeal, is making another run at the Mongols logo, renewing an earlier request for a narrower forfeiture order that would take away the clubs right to trademark exclusivity over the emblem. In the case that led to the racketeering conviction against the Mongols, Mr. Ciccone had acted as the case agent. ATF officials view Santillan's public declarations about the club cleaning house as hollow words; they continue to treat the Mongols as a serious threat. He cant protect me, he told me, so we have to have an exit strategy, he told me, Mr. Santillan, who sounded drunk and sounded distraught, said to her. In one of them, according to their court papers, Mr. Santillan crashed his Mercedes in 2017 while driving impaired, damaging numerous cars parked on the street. Marshal that Mr. Santillan and Mr. Ciccone had been seen chatting at a Starbucks near the courthouse. The #1 Biker News Website Since 2011-Covering up to minute biker news including Outlaw Motorcycle Clubs & Biker News Worldwide. Mongols biker club is denied new racketeering trial after claims its leader was informant Mongols members walk over the 6th Street Viaduct in Los Angeles. Michael Tyrone Delaney for The New York. Yanny played a clip from a National Geographic show segment on the Mongols in court as evidence of their relationship. After this mistake I realized I went against everything i believed in regarding both sides of the story and said enough of this drama bullshit . The #1 Biker News Website Since 2011-Covering up to minute biker news including Outlaw Motorcycle Clubs & Biker News Worldwide, For more than two decades, federal law enforcement authorities pursued the Mongols, a notorious motorcycle club whose members had a long history of murder, assault, drug dealing and robbery.In 2018, the government scored a victory of sorts. The judge will most likely consider a series of procedural matters on Monday, lawyers said, with additional hearings expected before any final ruling. Ms. Santillan said that she now felt horrible about disclosing the communications and that her husband was not, in fact, an informant. SANTA ANA, Calif. (KABC) -- Testimony resumed inside an Orange County federal courthouse on Wednesday morning for a hearing in which a judge will decide if the Mongols Motorcycle Club will get a new trial after being convicted of conspiracy and racketeering in 2018. Insane Throttle Support Club Become a memberNow, Insane Throttle/Motorcycle Madhouse Radio YouTube and AudioDisclaimer, Meet the Insane Throttle Contributing Columnist James Hollywood Macecari, Motorcycle Clubs Riding Clubs and Associations Near Me Index &Listings, Our Policies here at Insane Throttle Publications. Both men also rejected the claim that Mr. Santillan had revealed privileged defense information to the government while his motorcycle club was on trial. "He's retiring, he's retiring. Now the Mongols want a new trial and say their former president, David Santillan, was a confidential informant for the ATF. A jury ordered the forfeiture, but Judge Carter reversed the order, concluding that it infringed on the groups constitutional rights. The current president of the Mongols Motorcycle Club is David Santillan, a man who claims that the organization has changed its code of conduct to exclude drug abusers and criminals. Prosecutors convinced a jury in California that these crimes were not just the result of individual bikers behaving badly, but the work of an organized criminal enterprise that had participated in a campaign of mayhem. For more than two decades, federal law enforcement authorities pursued the Mongols, a notorious motorcycle club whose members had a long history of murder, assault, drug dealing and robbery. In another instance, in 2014, Mr. Santillan and his wife got into a brawl with other people at a racetrack, the Mongols filing says. The unusual legal imbroglio provides a rare glimpse into the hidden and volatile politics of the outlaw motorcycle club and the degree to which law enforcement and its targets may engage in limited cooperation when it is seen as mutually beneficial. The explosive allegations come after a secretly recorded video. Representatives from several local law enforcement departments also said they had no such records. A petition for a new trial and reversal of the half-million-dollar fine, which is scheduled for an initial hearing on Monday in the U.S. District Court in Santa Ana, Calif., claims that Mr. Santillan, 52, covertly cooperated for years with a special agent from the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. "Absolutely not, unequivocally no," says David Santillan. Then the conversation, which she was. During the almost 13 years he led the Mongols, Mr. Santillan appeared to steer the organization away from its past recruitment of Mexican criminal gang members and a culture of total underworld activity that the feds feasted on, in terms of prosecutions, said William Dulaney, an expert on motorcycle groups who was formerly an associate professor of national security at the U.S. Air Forces Air Command and Staff College. After one year he's done and he can't protect me, so we have to have an exit strategy.". The club was ordered to pay a $500,000 fine in what prosecutors hoped would be a down payment on putting it out of business. "You're my everything, you're my ride or die, you're my everything. if we Americanize the cartels that would make YouTube more entertaining, hurt Gore websites and save hundreds of thousands of lives. Mr. Santillan has acknowledged that he talked often with Mr. Ciccone for a period of years, usually in the presence of other Mongols members. For more than two decades, federal law enforcement authorities pursued the Mongols, a notorious motorcycle club whose members had a long history of murder, assault, drug dealing and robbery. That is the conviction and fine the Mongols are now trying to have set aside. The California motorcycle group had claimed that its former president, David Santillan, was a government informant. Santillan says he and Ciccone had a "rapport" after 25 years of dealing with one another. 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This is the final statement on this because honestly its mundane and boring. A jury sided with the prosecution in 2019 and ordered the group to give up the emblem, but Judge David O. Carter rejected the verdict as an infringement on the clubs constitutional rights. ", LA County sheriff's recruits graduate months after Whittier crash, Highways into the San Bernardino Mountains are closed to drivers, LA County passes motion requiring retrofit of some buildings by 2033. On the stand, Mr. Santillan called the claims about his daily meetings with Mr. Ciccone an absolute lie. (He acknowledged encountering Mr. Ciccone by chance at a Starbucks near the courthouse once during the trial.). That is the conviction and fine the Mongols are now trying to have set aside. David Santillan says he was thrown out of the Mongols after a "closed door" meeting where he did not get a chance to refute the allegations against him. David Santillan, the president of the Mongols, was ousted by the group after a video surfaced that implied he was being protected by a federal agent. At the core of the case was a video of a conversation between Mr. Santillan and his wife that she had passed on to members of the biker club last year, accompanied by a text message in which she told them that her husband had been a confidential government informant. He was the guy outside all the time providing cover support in case something went wrong with the undercovers.. In 2018, the government scored a victory of sorts. Mr. Dulaney said that Mr. Santillan instituted new policies, like no more club-driven drug business, and made it mandatory that members had to have a motorcycle and things like a valid drivers license and registration and a job.. The club was ordered to pay a $500,000 fine in what prosecutors hoped would be a down payment on putting it out of business. The text reads in part: "You guys need to see this video" and that David "has been working with the government is all [sic] entire time" and that's "why he felt so comfortable to do what he does he is simply a CI In other words he is a rat.". Judge Rejects Claim That Mongols Biker Club Leader Was a Rat, https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/07/us/mongols-informant.html. Former Mongols President David Santillan continued to testify. Both Mr. Ciccone and the U.S. Attorneys Office declined to comment on the motion beyond the government response filed in court, which said the petition for a new trial was replete with false and unsupported allegations and speculation.. After Judge Carters ruling, he declared vindication in what he said was a contrived internal political witch hunt to smear my name and to get me dethroned.. agent over the years because it helped avert trouble. Now the Mongols want a new trial and say their former president, David Santillan, was a confidential informant for the ATF. "I wanted him to feel kind of what I was feeling, the shame and embarrassment and betrayal. The birth of modern-day Mongols came in 1969 in Montebello and the club's website pulls no punches about its beginnings as well as its vision. Such an order would allow anyone to use the image. "The relationship was just cordial, respectful relationship just to keep the peace between us and the club," Santillan said. He raps off at the mouth like he actually knows what this scene is all about. There is no way hes gotten away with these incidents without more significant legal repercussions unless someone in law enforcement is in the background greasing the slides for him, Mr. Yanny said. LOS ANGELES (KABC) -- There's a new twist in a federal case already marked by murder and mayhem. Carter went on to tell prosecutors he does not want their witnesses to use the words "to the best of my recollection.". In 2018, the club was convicted of. In this Oct. 21, 2008 file photo a Mongols' motorcycle gang member vest is displayed during a news conference in Los Angeles. "I love you, I love you," David Santillan says in the call. He and his wife, Annie, were estranged after he had an affair. Cavazos was raised by his father in Highland Park, Los Angeles, California and joined the Avenues, a Mexican American street gang, at an early age before . On one occasion during the trial, Judge Carter expressed his displeasure to lawyers for both sides after being told by a U.S. #MONGOLSMC #MONGOLS #LILDAVEFor more than two decades, federal law enforcement authorities pursued the Mongols, a notorious motorcycle club whose members had. Clubs used to represent more than territory, it was about freedom and doing what you wanted. The A.T.F. Mongols Motorcycle Gang Member Sentenced to Life in Prison for Murdering President of San Francisco Hells Angels U.S. Attorney's Office May 15, 2012: Northern District of California (415) 436-7200; SAN FRANCISCOChristopher Bryan Ablett, a/k/a "Stoney," a member of the Modesto Chapter of the Mongols outlaw motorcycle gang, was sentenced . The lawyer in charge of the retrial motion, Joseph A. Yanny, said the Mongols hoped to prove that an improper relationship between Mr. Santillan and Mr. Ciccone during the 2018 trial allowed the government to hear things it should not have about the Mongols defense strategy and even adversely influenced the Mongols presentation of their case. If you've been paying attention the last couple of years, the Mongols have been on a sort of federal probation and that's the club as a whole. They are sick and tired of the gangster shit, they want to be bikers and be apart of a scene that was once true to itself (Thus the reason for pop up clubs and lack of respect for protocol and tradition). Mongols Motorcycle Club Says Its Leader LIL DAVE Was an Informant For more than two decades, federal law enforcement authorities pursued the Mongols, a notorious motorcycle club whose members had a long history of murder, assault, drug dealing and robbery. Mongols attorney Joe Yanny says his clients want their 2018 racketeering conviction thrown out or at the very least a new trial. Eyewitness News has obtained the video that was recorded in June of 2021 when David Santillan was drunk and despondent. His Club recruited many of their chapters over the internet, another known fact (We had their National Vice President who served for 10 years case on this channel where it was admitted that they supported law enforcement and threw on a diamond.WATCH THE VIDEO AT END OF ARTICLEL) Most would compare this to an Iron Order type of set up. Federal prosecutors have been focusing on the Mongols logo since 2008. He also denied that he ever helped Mr. Santillan win lenient treatment in his brushes with the law, which included a crash in his Mercedes five years ago while driving impaired. Mr. Santillan walking into a federal courthouse in Santa Ana, Calif., during the 2018 racketeering trial against the Mongols. A petition for a new trial and reversal of the half-million-dollar fine, which is scheduled for an initial hearing on Monday in the U.S. District Court in Santa Ana, Calif., claims that Mr. Santillan, 52, covertly cooperated for years with a special agent from the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. AS far as the other dude with the other channel is concerned. It wasnt the entire Mongols Nation that threw him under the bus but a few that fed creators who thought these people were representing the clubs voice. All rights reserved. The only thing he is guilty of is talking to John a lot and having some kind of rapport with him, she said in an interview. The lawyer in charge of the retrial motion, Joseph A. Yanny, said the Mongols hoped to prove that an improper relationship between Mr. Santillan and Mr. Ciccone during the 2018 trial allowed the government to hear things it should not have about the Mongols defense strategy and even adversely influenced the Mongols presentation of their case. The Mongols Motorcycle Club was convicted in late 2018 of racketeering and conspiracy. If youre going to listen to a dude that does nothing but market gimmicks AKA CULTURE VULTURE, on YouTube, part of the scene with no time in at all, thats on you. Mongols Motorcycle Club Says Its Leader Was an Informant, https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/05/us/mongols-new-trial.html. The. Ciccone said whenever he worked a Mongols event and there was the potential for problems or violence, he would go to Santillan because he's the president of the Mongols and can convey the message to his members. Lil Dave is the former International President of the Mongols Motorcycle Club. In the call, David Santillan sobs and says he wants to reconcile. There is no way hes gotten away with these incidents without more significant legal repercussions unless someone in law enforcement is in the background greasing the slides for him, Mr. Yanny said. He is a rat, Mr. Santillans wife, Annie, suggested in a text message that became a key piece of evidence in the case against the group, which was founded in Southern California in 1969 and whose members are mostly Hispanic. In court Monday, prosecutors told Judge David O. Carter that retired ATF agent Ciccone will testify that Santillan was never an informant. She later recanted the assertion. Mongols MC is a one percenter motorcycle club founded in Montebello, California on December 5, 1969. She also said in a text message to other Mongols, now filed with the court, that her husband had acted for a time as a confidential government informant. Yanny said they had more than just casual run-ins. Santillan says he ran into Ciccone when he went to pick up some Mongols property that had been released after the trial. Both men also rejected the claim that Mr. Santillan had revealed privileged defense information to the government while his motorcycle club was on trial. ", RELATED: Mongols Motorcycle Club vows to fight trademark loss. David Santillan, the president of the Mongols, was ousted by the group after a video surfaced that implied he was being protected by a federal agent.CreditMichael Tyrone Delaney for The New York Times. and other law enforcement agencies have long gone after biker organizations by co-opting members as informants and infiltrating the groups with their own undercover agents. ", RELATED: Racketeering verdict in OC might force Mongols biker club to lose logo. "He goes, I know you've been doing a bang-up job at the club, can't protect you from this point forward," Santillan recounted of their conversation. Such an order would allow anyone to use the image. So, she sent the recording along with a text message to two other members of the Mongols Motorcycle Club. In their petition, the Mongols argue that Mr. Santillan could have been pressured to leak strategy and other information to the government as a result of lenient treatment the defense claimed he received during his brushes with the law. "It was an improper line of communication, particularly for a law enforcement personnel trying to convict an entity of being a criminal organization," Yanny said.
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